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Old Jun 16, 2010, 11:39 PM // 23:39   #81
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nerf this, nerf that, qq. it's only nm doa runs. let the people who enjoy doing it enjoy it.

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All this talk about NM? Normal Mode?

SO what if it works there? Hard mode is there to give a challenge.

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Old Jun 16, 2010, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #82
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Dude who the fck do u think u are acting all mighty and telling ANet what to nerf? If u want ANet to nerf DwG then i want ANet to perma ban u, just by guessing ur a guy who cant even use DwG
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lollllllllllllllllllllll i WON'T use DwG but thats because my guild isn't a bunch of noobs who can't do a clean HM doasc in under an hour kk thx.

DwG needs to be nerfed because its destroying the doa economy. doa is supposed to be the hardest area in the game and allowing any tom dick or harry to run some random pvx build and successfully clear it and make armbraces is a bad thing. imo doa should be pro guild area only. if you noobs want to whine about fairness and that anyone should be able to do it then you're clearly someone who can't do a good HM doasc run.
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Old Jun 16, 2010, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #83
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You know, nerfing DwG won't really make a difference considering players will just be moved onto the next skill. This isn't the fault of individual skills, but simply how GW mechanics themselves work.

Besides. DwG is way too fun to nerf for General PvE.

Anyways, you want DwG nerfed because DoA..... Is too easy?
PASS ME SOME OF DAT' SHIT YER SMOKING!
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #84
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You know, nerfing DwG won't really make a difference considering players will just be moved onto the next skill. This isn't the fault of individual skills, but simply how GW mechanics themselves work.

Besides. DwG is way too fun to nerf for General PvE.

Anyways, you want DwG nerfed because DoA..... Is too easy?
PASS ME SOME OF DAT' SHIT YER SMOKING!
That's the thing. There really isn't much to fall back on. There's a reason there were next to no doa pugs before DwG was buffed. If the doa economy goes, there is really no decent way left to make money in pve.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 12:39 AM // 00:39   #85
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Suffice to say the support for a nerf to DwG is no where near as strong as it was for SF and Ursan. It ain't gonna happen. Keep QQ'ing.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 12:54 AM // 00:54   #86
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Suffice to say the support for a nerf to DwG is no where near as strong as it was for SF and Ursan. It ain't gonna happen. Keep QQ'ing.
Pretty much this. Nothing here will make a difference.

The only reason to post in this thread is to bash people supporting this ridicule.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 01:31 AM // 01:31   #87
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If there was more balance, nerfing the next thing would eventually lead to actual balance.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 04:29 AM // 04:29   #88
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Anet just need to introduce something like skeletons in UW for both DoA and FoW to make it more interesting.
I do notice there is now more pugs in DoA then there is in UW or FoW.
since dwg has been introduced in DoA I have now been too lazy to clear DoA as its not worth the effort imo.

armbrace might even drop to 100k each just like it did during the ursan times.
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 05:51 AM // 05:51   #89
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[sarcasm] Nerf it all! nerf... it... ALL. Gives haters something to laugh about while farmers give up and move on to another game. [/endsarcasm]
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 06:43 AM // 06:43   #90
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 10:22 AM // 10:22   #91
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 10:50 AM // 10:50   #92
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And now for the benefit of Guru.. extra characters..
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 01:44 PM // 13:44   #93
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I've been there. I've used that build. I still prefer going with other stuff like spirits, though.
But you'll be surprised.
Most people can't even use this 'mindless' build correctly, no matter how mindless it is, you must also be wary of where you are, and were enemies are, and be careful with what you pull, etc.

Any team in which any of the key members was not one of my guildies, failed due to something any of the 'outsiders' did.

So its not really important.

Changing skills will do nothing in DoA.
There is no skill in there. Only massively high numbers.
Massive armor, massive damage, massive attributes, and even more when they get 'angry'.
That's why since its beginning, only gimmick builds are really successful there.

Look at slaver's. You have to use tactics there. Bring Frozen Soil, attack first the healers, bring a skill to move away the spirits, pull carefully, watch the patrols... and then it's when you use the gimmick against Duncan, but not before.

If I had to choose, the best battles are those with unique rules like against Abaddon and the Iron Forgeman.

But DoA is nothing like that. You can act as a minion that just follows someone and mash buttons, and the only ones that have to think are two or three players, if any.


So, the problem is not the skills, it's DoA itself.

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Old Jun 17, 2010, 01:55 PM // 13:55   #94
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Anet just need to introduce something like skeletons in UW for both DoA and FoW to make it more interesting.
I do notice there is now more pugs in DoA then there is in UW or FoW.
since dwg has been introduced in DoA I have now been too lazy to clear DoA as its not worth the effort imo.

armbrace might even drop to 100k each just like it did during the ursan times.
No.

Anet should add more mobs like the WiK. Then Anet should remove the consumables, the environmental area effects (is there a better way to introduce a gimmick?) and have a look at some PvE only skills.

And of course, make armbarces and gemstones not tradable and tormented weapons customized when crafted - If people want elite weapons they should get them themselves! *whistle* :-)

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Old Jun 17, 2010, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #95
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This thread is mindless..

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Old Jun 17, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39   #96
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All you QQ'ers are focusing your whining in the wrong direction. What about the Imbagon?! You all realize that's the only reason these DwG's can do what they do right?! RIGHT?!
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 03:23 PM // 15:23   #97
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All you QQ'ers are focusing your whining in the wrong direction. What about the Imbagon?! You all realize that's the only reason these DwG's can do what they do right?! RIGHT?!
errr.... no imbagons existed before the DwG buff and during then DoA was still dead it was the DwG that has made it come back to life, and witnessing the 3rd room in foundry easly done with the AoE the dwg does as a 1st time was insane compared to a balanced setup.
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/signed because i want 50e for my armbraces ty
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lollllllllllllllllllllll i WON'T use DwG but thats because my guild isn't a bunch of noobs who can't do a clean HM doasc in under an hour kk thx.

DwG needs to be nerfed because its destroying the doa economy. doa is supposed to be the hardest area in the game and allowing any tom dick or harry to run some random pvx build and successfully clear it and make armbraces is a bad thing. imo doa should be pro guild area only. if you noobs want to whine about fairness and that anyone should be able to do it then you're clearly someone who can't do a good HM doasc run.
You say that DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" and you complain that DwG makes it too easy for noobs but you don't seem to have a problem with your guild doing HM DOASCs in less than an hour. If DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" as you say, how does clearing it in less than a hour in HM justify that? Are you saying that these speed clears don't use any gimmick builds?
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You say that DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" and you complain that DwG makes it too easy for noobs but you don't seem to have a problem with your guild doing HM DOASCs in less than an hour. If DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" as you say, how does clearing it in less than a hour in HM justify that? Are you saying that these speed clears don't use any gimmick builds?
He doesn't care.

He only cares how much money he can do out of DoA.
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